GREENWICH INDUSTRIAL HISTORY

Volume 9, Issue 3, August 2006

ARTICLES
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GIHS MEETINGS

19th September – Paul Calvocoresci

24th October – Allan Green. William Thomas Henley: an Extraordinary Engineer

28th November – Neil Rhind. Subject to be arranged

23rd January AGM plus Mark Stevenson – English Heritage and work on the Royal Arsenal site

20th February – Tom Wareham. A Dangerous Occupation

13th March – Terry Scales. Living by the River - an artist’s view

17th April – Hugh Lyon. The Greenwich Fishing Fleet

All meetings will take place at The Old Bakehouse in Blackheath Village at 7.30 pm.

Obituary

  An Appreciation of Beverley Burford

 Beverley Burford died on 20th May 2006 after an eighteen month battle with cancer in her spine. She had a full time job running the Borough Museum which she did effectively but without fuss, so she was always able to welcome people and spend time dealing with their wants.
When the Museum was formed it was bequeathed an extensive range of pertinent books, particularly on botany and zoology, which forms the core of a reference library for Museum use (still held separately from the Borough Archives), for which Beverley was the librarian. Then came the Heritage Centre project, to amalgamate the Museum with the Borough Archives from Mycenae Road, Blackheath. Beverley worked late, regularly. She might throw one out at five o'clock, but she stayed on - but still the piles on her desk rose. The move loomed. Items were packed.  Unpacking at the Arsenal was hasty, so at first things could not easily be found. Beverley was not a retiring museum curator - she was a front-of-house manager, making sure that all who came were properly welcomed, looked after, and suitably impressed by the Heritage Centre.
She leaves a substantial legacy and some other ideas for the future of the Heritage Centre deserve to come to fruition.

R J Buchanan (this is a condensed version of an appreciation of Beverley written for Woolwich Antiquarians’ Newsletter)

 


MERRYWEATHER MEMORABILIA

Mysteriously and unsolicited through the post came a parcel – it turns out to be a scrapbook about a Merryweather employee ‘Mr. L.C.Miller leaves Greenwich’.  Obviously we would be interested to know more about Mr. Miller – but, for now, here are some highlights from the scrapbook.  And thank you to Paula Clatworthy of Mousehole who bought a job lot of books, found the scrapbook and sent it to us. 

So, who was Mr. Miller? The scrapbook says: “On January 31st, 1956, Mr. L.C. Miller, DSO, BSc (Eng), Director and Works Manager of Merryweather & Sons Ltd., Greenwich, retired. After 47 years with the Company Mr. Miller was born in 1889, the son of Mr. L. Miller who was also a Director of Merryweathers. After gaining his degree he joined Merryweathers in 1908. In 1911 he was appointed Assistant Works Manager. He served, throughout the first World War with the Royal Garrison Artillery, gaining the DSO in 1917 for 'conspicuous gallantry and devotion'. In 1938 he was appointed Works Manager and was elected to the Board in 1942.”

The scrapbook contains two menus for two farewell meals for Mr. Miller. The first ‘Luncheon’ was at the Constitutional Club in London on 30th January – the menu “Crème soup …. Delice de Sole Meuniere …. Carre d’Agneau, Roti, sauce Menthe, Choux de Bruxelles, Pommes Chateau … Coupe Nebraska … Café”. 

The second ‘Dinner’ was at the Prince of Orange in Greenwich High Road, on 31st January. The menu: ‘Cream of Tomato Soup, Roast Chicken and Savoury stuffing, Baked and creamed potatoes, Brussels sprouts, Garden Peas …. Fresh Fruit salad and ice cream … cheese and biscuits … Coffee’ (you could write a whole social history from those menus!).

Many of the pictures are of these farewell events – and since I assume readers don’t want lots of pictures of people eating – some of the other pictures of other subjects are included below.

During his last day at Greenwich Mr. Miller visited several of the shops throughout the works. Foreman, J.Collins, with twenty years service, has a word with Mr. Miller in the Fitting Shop

Bomb damage at Merryweathers

On the evening of January 31st Merryweather people from works and offices gathered to drink Mr. Miller’s health. Here they listen intently while the Chairman speaks.

Miss Meekings, Mr. Miller’s secretary for eleven years, make final adjustments to Mr. Miller’s wall charts.

This modern picture apparently shows a stripped down Merryweather boiler from one of their Greenwich-made fire engines.

Mr. Miller calls in at the Blacksmith’s Shop for a last glance. At the steam hammer (left to right) are Foreman, S.Sheen (52 years service), L.Mitchell (18 years service), and T.Stevenson (5 years service).

LETTERS

Where addresses are not given, please contact through the Editor, c/o 24 Humber Road, London SE3

From: Malcolm Tucker

The illustration in GIHS 9 (2) of ‘a fireman’ was not photographed in the retort house of a gasworks. The features behind are a bank of classic Babcock and Wilcox-type water tube boilers, for raising ‘high’ pressure steam. The configuration was patented in the USA in 1867 and continued to be installed well into the 20th century with the addition of mechanical stoking.  The stoking arrangements at the front of the firebox are hidden by the man. The cupboard-like doors above gave access for cleaning the ash from around the inclined bank of water tubes and for withdrawing the tubes themselves for renewal. Above, again, are drains in which the steam, separated from the water, provided a reservoir of steam.


From: Tim Serisier

I am researching Thomas Humphreys who described himself as a blacksmith. He died in 1844, leaving his wife and many children quite wealthy. Most of his daughters moved to Australia, but his son Thomas remained in Greenwich along with his sister Mary Ann who married David Fraser, a cooper. Has Thomas been researched previously?

tim.serisier@bigpond.com


From: Keith Dawson from Toowoomba, Queensland Australia.

I am a descendant of the Whaling Enderbys, being a descendent of a mysterious William Enderby, mysterious because I do not know his Mother or Father - he just appears in the records in 1805.

I have written a book on the Enderbys - who I maintain were responsible for the Endeavour, The Tea Party & the First Fleets all in the name of trade/oil industry of the day and to spread religion of the Evangelical brands of Protestantism, being assisted by the descendents of the founders of the Massachusetts Bay Company, the book will be titled The Founding of Sydney.

To the Wharfe - the Enderbys originally operated the oil & Muscovy trade from St. Paul's Wharfe at Lower Thames Street. After 1783 a Henry Vansittart built the wharf on the site of a disused ammunition wharf. Vansittarts & Enderbys had been friendly for years, before Vansittart Snr., an officer for the East India trade went missing together with the ship he was travelling on around 1770. Henry’s brother Nicholas was the Chancellor of the Exchequer for 12 years. The Vansittarts were investors in the Enderby whalers, hence the first whaler known to have sailed around Cape Horn into the Pacific being called Emelia, after the widowed mother of Henry, the ship collected the British government bonus of 800 pounds for so doing which it did sailing from the Thames in 1788 an auspicious year for Australia. My information is that Morden College is quite likely to have had a hand in the ownership of the wharf. It would appear that the Enderby's leased all property, domestic & industrial through the College. With luck, I may be in Greenwich next year. Family correspondence from a Col. Moffit, descendent of the Gordon family of Khartoum fame, says that Uncle George lived in the house on Greenwich Marsh & that he was deaf & argumentive so that when his dwarfed sister was on her weekly visit there was a scene that looked bad to an outsider not in the know. Col Moffit states that he was often called Uncle George because he was argumentive as a child.  Hope I have told you something new.

I have numbered the Samuels, it was Samuel Enderby II (1719-1797) that had the wharf built, his son Samuel III (1755-1829) carried on the business, it was his son George II who died in 1891 who lived in the house, and I think he must have purchased it when Charles II (1798-1876) lost the family fortune in the Auckland isles. Lord Auckland was Mr. Eden who is thought to have been Britain’s master spy during the American War of Independence. The aforementioned Nicholas married Lord Auckland’s daughter Isabella. Samuel Enderby II was friendly with Benjamin Franklin, the American, at the time.

nanke@gil.com.au


From: John Poole

I lived in Aldeburgh Street from 1948 until 1969, then, having married, moved to literally around the corner in Fearon Street, from 1969 until 1978. As a child and even as a young teenager, the Greenwich Marshes, particularly down at the bottom of Horne Lane and along the riverfront was my playground. My family, at least back to my Great Grandparents, also lived in the area. Great Grandfather McDuff, his wife and his family, including my paternal Grandmother (Margaret) lived in Aldeburgh Street from when the houses were newly-built for workers on the railway. My Grandmother's brother, (my Great Uncle) Edward McDuff was a Manager in the chemical laboratories at the Gasworks until retirement in around 1968. My paternal Grandfather, Percy Poole, an Old Contemptible and railway worker, also lived in Aldeburgh Street, but on the other side of the road.  My wife lived all her single life in Annandale Road and her father worked at Redpath Brown Dorman Long until his retirement.  Now living at Greatstone-on-Sea, Kent, so I suppose you could say that I've swapped the Greenwich Marshes for the Romney Marshes - a true 'marshman' of one sort or another, anyway.

JOHNMRPOOLE@aol.com


From: Lorraine Smith 

My grandmother was born at Rectory Buildings in Deptford.  I can find no record of where in Deptford this actually was. I see from a previous posting on your site that someone had mentioned the building was owned by the Industrial Buildings Company in the 1890's. My grandmother was born in 1914.  Was it still owned by them at that stage?  What sort of accommodation was it?  Do you have any pictures?

oscarwilde42@hotmail.com


From: Brenden Adams

I am trying to locate a small book written by my father in the late 70s. He wrote it whilst on a sabbatical from teaching in Bermondsey. The subject was the locomotive builder George England who had a works in Hatcham. He did lecture on the subject locally and I assisted him sometimes. He is now 87 and does not enjoy good health. When I asked him the other day if he had a copy, he said he did not keep a copy for himself.  My father's name is Dave Adams. At the time we live at 59 Sevenoaks Road Crofton Park S.E.4.

Brenden.Adams@aol.com


From: Jacqui Simkins

I have just received from my distant relative some pages from your website on John Lloyd, the millwright (who built the East Greenwich tide mill). He died in 1835. His will leaves considerable sums to many - including the family of his sister Mary who married Henry Payne Jeffries. I have a copy of John Lloyd’s Will, and a transcription of it. You are welcome to either if they would be of interest. Have you any information about John Lloyd or Lloyd & Ostler?

jas@langleymill.freeserve.co.uk


From: D.A.Parkinson

Would you know if there is any ships models, paintings or prints of Breda, 70 guns, 3rd-rate warship, built Woolwich 1692? Or Defiance, 64 Guns, 3rd-rate warship, built in Chatham 1675, rebuilt Woolwich 1695?


From: Geoffrey Forrest

Back in 1970 I worked for a while at the Albion Sugar Company, located in the old Woolwich Dockyard. At the time my father was working for the RACS Funeral Services, which were also located there, in Commonwealth Buildings. I know the Co-op funeral services are still there, but I have not been able to find any mention of Albion Sugar, either past or present. All I know is that much of the Dockyard site is now housing. I wondered if you or anyone else in your Society knows what happened to the Albion Sugar Company? My recollection was that it occupied quite a large site, right on the river, and had many employees. Thanks for any information you can provide.

geoffrey_forrest@hsdm. harvard.edu


From: Victor G. Beaumont (Rev.)

I must agree with Phillip Binns, a committee member of the Greenwich Conservation Group. When speaking of the Woolwich Congregational Church, he said: "We very much regret the loss of such a wonderful Victorian Building."

Although I now live in New Zealand, much of my formative years were bound up with the Rectory Place Church. Consequently I well remember the efforts made, in the 1950s, by the Rev. Harold Eburne, with the support of the congregation, to restore the church which had been damaged in an air raid. Having heard about the proposed demolition of the church, I wrote in April of last year to Pastor Aaron Flanagan expressing my sadness that the present congregation should find it necessary to destroy such a building. In his reply he wrote; "It is true that we are planning to demolish it, (only because of the terrible condition it is in) but we are planning to build a brand new one in its place. This is a big project for us, but I believe that God has led us and brought us to this place." The thing which puzzles me is firstly, why is the building in such a poor state of repair and secondly, if there is money available to build a "brand new church" then surely it would be better to renovate the old structure, which when I saw the outside a few years ago, seemed to be in a reasonable state of repair? There was no mention in the Pastor's letter about building 13 flats. But then architecturally-pleasing historic churches (and often other buildings) seem to be relatively unimportant today. Another question I would like answered, and which the good Pastor in reply to my letter, ignored, is: What will happen to the two-manual organ built by Foster and Andrews of Hull, in 1881 which I used to play for some of the services?

When I last came to Woolwich I also noticed that The Paley Press, a small commercial printers on the corner of John Wilson Street, where I worked for seven years has been demolished, together with Fishers, the military tailors.


From: Jim Jones

I'm looking for a Greenwich street - AIRY?  which is on a relative’s birth certificate dated 1914. I've tried every avenue I can think of with no luck. Wondered if you could possibly help?

jimjones@dsl.pipex.com


From: Colin Sawie

Hello. I was an apprentice carpenter in the Central Works (Green & Silley Weir Ltd) in the Royal Albert Dock in the mid-1950s. Around that time, a crest was carved in teak by one of the great craftsmen, Arthur Silversword. As far as I can remember it was for the P&O line. I think it was meant be on a building at the entrance area of the Royal Docks. Does anyone recall such a crest?

I am asking through sheer curiosity as I was telling my Grandson about the crest carving. We now live in British Columbia, Canada.

cs1882@telus.net                        l


From: Ray Hoggart

Hello there! In 1960 I was a N/S Royal Artillery soldier and briefly stationed at Woolwich in some old Barracks there. I have memories of the place and as I get older they seem to matter more. I stood guard on a gate there one Saturday night in May but I have never known the name or where they were, the whole area was a warren of old buildings (what history!) and one could get lost easily.

I returned to Woolwich in about 1978 for a visit to see if I could find these old Barracks. The gate was there but the buildings had gone and the Regimental Square was a lorry park. I realize now that I was a few years too late! I have searched all over the place and never found the name. Google always found the Front Parade. Today I tried a different type of search and the GIHS turned up with articles on the Barracks which I now know were Red and Cambridge. Are there any photographs anywhere of the barracks that I could download, particularly the gate, and any written articles on the history of them? I've seen a map of the area from about 1917 at Godfrey Maps which I will send for and that should give me a layout of the place.

Rayhoggart@yahoo.co.uk


From: Laurence Cunnington

This afternoon, I found the attached label under the floorboards of my house in Harrogate which was built in 1895. It appears to have lain there undisturbed since that date or soon after. Do you have any information regarding Johnson & Phillips and/or would any of your members be interested in ephemera relating to this company .


BOOKS & PUBLICATIONS

PUBLICATIONS RECEIVED

We (usually!) receive a great many newsletters and booklets - thank you, and keep them coming - however, what is listed here are only those which have something of Greenwich interest in the current edition. Reviews of any publications of Greenwich interest are always welcome.

Naval Dockyards Society – are advertising the following publications:

Naval Dockyards. A Bibliography £1.50 (also on their website www.hants.gov.uk/navaldockyard)
Index to the list of workmen and apprentices in His Majesty’s Dockyards in 1748. £10.00
Portsmouth Dockyard in the Age of Nelson by Ray Riley, £10.  All plus p&p from Dr. Ann Coats, 44 Lindsey Avenue, Portsmouth PO4 9NU  023 92 863799 ann@dockyards.org.

THE KIRKALDY TESTING MUSEUM
99 SOUTHWARK STREET LONDON SE1 OJF

Volunteers Required!

The centre-piece of the museum is David Kirkaldy's large testing machine built in the 1860s. The materials testing machine was made to David Kirkaldy's design and built by Greenwood & Batley of Leeds and is still in working condition. In addition the museum has probably the largest collection of old testing machines in this country. The museum needs more 'Friends' to keep all this equipment in good order and to bring stored items into use. There are opportunities for office work (inventories etc.), display, design and mechanical work on the various machines and many other skills. We are a small friendly team, who normally meet twice a month, including being open to the public on the first Sunday of the month. We have planned a special 'Open-day' for possible new volunteers on Saturday 14 October from 10.30am - 4 pm. Do drop in during the day if possible.

Contact: Denis Smith 020 8504 0702 e-mail: denis.smith@btclick.com

THE HILL FOLK

Iris Bryce has a new book published (her seventh). It's title The Hill Folk, was the term used by the villagers of Wrotham, in Kent for the people who lived high up on top of the North Downs. In the 1950's Iris and her husband Owen bought a derelict farm on the highest point, approx. 800 ft. and purely by accident, these two Londoners born and bred found themselves starting an Organic Market Garden in 1953. The Hill Folk tells the story of their next twenty years or more, years that changed their way of life - one that no money could ever buy.

The book is available from Iris at 58 Pond Bank, Blisworth. 01604 858192, price £9.95.

CROSSNESS ENGINES TRUST - RESTORATION OF VICTORIA

Yes, we're stripping Victoria and she doesn't mind! Work has started on the restoration of the second James Watt beam engine but this time, instead of tearing in and getting our hands dirty taking the engine apart, a reasoned and logical approach has been adopted in the hope that this aspect of our restoration work will qualify for official recognition by the National Museums Organisation.

From: Crossness Record

New Street Lighting on Shooters Hill

Shooters Hill has recently been graced by new lamp posts, the third set since the 1930s when the Laing and Wimpey estates added their suburban sprawl. The original set had a cast iron base about eight feet tall (of a type suitable for gas lamps), a mild steel extension doubling the height with a swan neck at the top from which an electric lamp hung: lighting was by filament bulb. The lamp posts were painted a shade of leaf green, fitting in well with the various colours the houses were then painted and their garden plants. In the 1960s these were replaced by slightly lower, reinforced concrete posts (those used to rusty reinforcement breaking out of concrete fence posts doubted its use for lamp posts, but most were as good the day they came out as when they went in). These had a tapering triangular design with the comers chamfered, becoming hexagonal at the top; here a 45° angled-back top supported a lantern which shone across the roadway. Lighting was by twin 18 inch fluorescent tubes, quite bright when new, though they gently dimmed with age. Eventually the fluorescent lanterns were replaced by sodium lamps in smaller lanterns. The third, 2006, set are a response to health and safety fears - crashing into a concrete post might cause it to shatter and land on the crashing vehicle, while a steel one would merely bend. The new set are a simple tubular design, a three foot high base with a plain post rising to a height of 20 feet, directly into a lantern that overhangs the roadway: lighting is again sodium. Big Brother also has space in the lantern to fit a camera. When installed the posts and lantern were both grey, not very attractive; then the Council  said they would paint the posts black - which sounded worse - and did, leaving the lanterns grey. The new lamp posts now blend nicely in the neighbourhood, most houses having similarly proportioned black drainpipes, other paintwork now mainly being (conservation area) white.

From: Woolwich Antiquarians Newsletter

The stylish period chimney, oval in cross section, at the Greenwich District Hospital site was felled at 10.30 am on Sunday morning 18 June 2006. Controlled explosives were used. Roads in the vicinity were closed and there was a good crowd of onlookers. Little is now left at this location.

From: GLIAS Newsletter

The advent of the Docklands Light Railway to Woolwich has caused the demolition of some well-loved (and locally listed) buildings. However, two early houses facing Rope Yard Rails from across Beresford Square have now been revealed, whose front gardens had long ago been lost to commerce and been built over.

From: Woolwich Antiquarians Newsletter

GREENWICH FOOT TUNNEL

This message was sent out to cyclists in Tower Hamlets, Greenwich and Southwark by Barry Mason, co-ordinator of Southwark Cyclists. Mr. Mason instigated the celebrations for the centenary of the Greenwich foot tunnel in 2002. If anybody is interested in his suggestions, please contact him at the number below.

“Local authorities can do things brilliantly but look at the state of the tunnel and despair. The no-spitting etc. signs at the start say it all.  I keep coming, back to my fantasy that a local group takes over the Foot Tunnel from Greenwich Council and its the quaint dead hand of municipalisation. We turn it into an integral part of the Greenwich World Heritage Site experience. Tourists are encouraged to walk the tunnel for an entrance fee that works from 10-5 every day. Commuters get free passes and only need use them during charging times. The tunnel gets smartened up...... and users get told much more about it. Why is there that extra reinforcing steel-work at the northern end? 1944 bomb damage. With maybe 200,000 tourists a year using the tunnel at £3 each it might be possible to run the operation at a modest profit... with maybe capital works underwritten by Tower Hamlets and Greenwich Councils. Phase 2 is a new visitor centre at Island Gardens with much better cafe, loos, cycle hire and the gateway to the Isle of Dogs. Tower Hamlets says it wants more tourists but currently does nothing to lure them north, or south from Canary Wharf City. With a bit more sense, lift maintenance etc. would be done overnight. Not during the day - for the whole of June. At present the foot tunnel might be just about the UK's most subsidised cycling route. It doesn't have to be like passing through the Greenwich cloaca... it could be restored to white-tiled glowing brass pristine shineyness with a bit of thought and love. The tunnel should be listed by English Heritage. It's a wonderful thing whose neglect is a sin. Those domes over need to be opened to visitors too. I'm copying this to Sustrans Flagship pre-2012 project. If anybody's serious about this take-over possibility then let's talk direct... but I'm not interested in endless wittering... simply effective dialogue to get the tunnel into safer hands. A couple of years ago a few of us got the original engineers, Binnie and Partners, to help celebrate its 100th birthday. Neither Council were a bit interested until the event was organised. Then Mayors limo'd up in droves for the champagne. 20 of us sang Happy Birthday to you while stradding the TH/Greenwich white line border under the waves. And think about a quick ferry across while we're at it and if that horrible bridge downstream in Thamesmead goes in, the Woolwich Ferry will soon close. And that's very sad....but. Think about the Woolwich Tunnel too. And if you're one of those idiots who cycle through it at speed brushing pedestrians on the way, shame on you, stupid."

Barry Mason, Southwark Cyclists
Taken from an item in the GLIAS Newsletter – but Barry has been asked to comment further.

GREENWICH CONSERVATION GROUP NOTES

by Philip Binns

Recent plans seen by the group include:

Factory premises, Meadowcourt Road, SE3. Demolition of existing building. Erection of new three storey building for live/work and residential use. Group regrets that no thought had been given to retention of the existing building.

1 Mineral Street, SE18. Erection of building providing flats. Regret loss of light industrial premises.

Vista Building, 30 Calderwood Street, SE18. Erection of extensions for shops on the ground floor and flats above. Group expresses concern at lack of open and communal space as more accommodation is built.   Suggest a ‘living roof.

Old Royal Military Academy, Academy Road, SE18. Removal of Royal Artillery Memorials from the Dining Hall. Welcome the relocation of the Woolwich Old Contemptibles Association in the Royal Garrison Church, Grand Depot Road.



MEETINGS AND EVENTS

This list of meetings and events has been culled from leaflets and notices brought to our attention.
If you would like your meeting listed here please contact Mary Mills, 24 Humber Road, SE3 7LR (020 8858 9482)

2006

SEPTEMBER

2nd September, GLIAS walk - Riverside Fulham. To book, write to 84a Kingston Road, Luton, LU2 7SA

5th September, Crossness Engines. Non-steaming guided tours. Book. 020 8311 3711 on Tuesday or Sunday between 9.30am and 4.00pm.

6th September, The Princes Channel Wreck. Docklands History Group. 5.30pm. Museum in Docklands.

16-17th September, London Open House Days

17th September, Crossness Engines. Public Steaming Day.

19th September, Nineteenth Century Maritime Connection, Hugh Lyon. East Greenwich History Club. 3.00-5.00pm. Forum@Greenwich (Christchurch, Trafalgar Road). All welcome.

23rd September, Great Houses of Blackheath, Diana Rimel. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

27th September, Evelyn’s Gardens in Deptford and Surrey. Gill Friar. Rotherhithe and Bermondsey HG. 7.45pm. Old Mortuary, St. Marychurch Street, SE16.

OCTOBER

2nd October, Greenwich in 20th Century. Julian Watson. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

3rd October, Crossness Engines. Non-steaming guided tours. Book as above.

9th October, City of London. Allan Burnett. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

9th October, History of the Gravesend Sea School. Gravesend Historical Society. Chantry School, Ordnance Road, Gravesend. 7.00pm.   Contact: Sandra, 01474 363 998

14th October, The Life and Times of Alfred Tolhurst. Towncentric, Gravesend. 11 am. Booking essential 01474 33 76 00

14th October, Open Day for new volunteers. Kirkaldy’s Testing House Museum. (See news item)

15th October, Crossness Engines. Non-steaming guided tours. Book as above.

16th October, St.Paul’s Cathedral. Sue Jenkinson. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

17th October, Cranes along the Greenwich Riverside. Peter Kent. East Greenwich History Club. 3.00-5.00pm. Forum@Greenwich (Christchurch, Trafalgar Road). All welcome.

20th October, From Plates to Pixels. Forensic Photography. Mr. N. Bishop, Police Photographer. Blackheath Scientific Society. 7.45pm. Mycenae House.

23rd October. Greenwich Peninsula. Mary Mills. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

25th October, Bankside by Len Reilly. RBHG as above.

29th October, Crossness Engines. Public Steaming Day.

30th October. All Change on the Greenwich Peninsula. Susie Wilson. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

NOVEMBER

4th November. J.& R.Starbuck. Ship’s Chandlers. Towncentric, Gravesend. 11am, booking essential 01474 33 76 00

6th November. Tudor London. Ian Bevan. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

7th November. Crossness Engines. Non-steaming guided tours. Book as above.

13th November. Up Deptford Creek. Peter Kent. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

19th November. Crossness Engines. Non-steaming guided tours. Book as above.

19th November. A short history of Deptford. Peter Gurnett. RBHG as above.

20th November. A glimpse behind the respectable façade of Victorian Sydenham. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886

27th November. Crime and Punishment in Greenwich. Chris Foord. Mycenae House Local History Group. 10.15am. 020 8858 5886



COURSES

Faculty of Continuing Education – Birkbeck College

The Industrial Archaeology of East London

From Wednesday, 20th September 2006. 2.00 pm - 4.00 pm for 12 meetings including visits.
Museum in Docklands Tutor: Mary Mills, BA, MPhil, PhD
For further details please contact: Natalie Ping, Tel: 020 7631 6627. Fax: 020 7631 6688, e-Mail: archaeology@fce.bbk.ac.uk

For a prospectus, please ring 0845 601 0174 or e-Mail info@bbk.ac.uk

Mycenae House Local History Group

The Group will be meeting from Monday 25 September 2006, from 10.15-12.15pm for 12 weeks, at the Vanbrugh Community Association, Mycenae House, 90 Mycenae Road, London SE3 7SE (near The Standard). Topical and historical illustrated talks given by professional speakers in the Autumn term cover Greenwich, Lewisham, London and Southwark. A detailed Programme, ready from August/September, can be collected from:

The Office, Mycenae House, (open 10.00am-5.30pm, Mon-Fri), or apply in writing, enclosing a stamped addressed envelope info telephone callers). Enrolment at the classes - £5 weekly or £50 termly.



EXHIBITIONS

FIREPOWER

For further information please contact Firepower on 020 8855 7755, info@firepower.org.uk, website www.firepower.org.uk


Sponsor a tile at Crossness

One of the Crossness Engine Trust's objectives is to return the Beam Engine House to its original 1865 condition. To this end, they have been actively looking at the possibility of replacing an area of missing floor tiles in front of the north facing windows on the Beam floor. They feel that this colourful display of Victorian tiling would add to visitors’ enjoyment of the Engine House. It is laid with tiles of varying shape and colour (red, black and harvest blue) to form a geometric pattern. They have located a company at Burslam, Stoke on Trent, which still makes an exact match of the original tiles, in both size and colour.

The Trust is seeking help from those who would like to contribute to this restoration project. This will take the form of sponsorship and you can sponsor as few or as many tiles as you wish, up to a maximum of the 900 required, at a cost of £l per tile.

If you are interested, please make your cheque payable to the Crossness Engines Trust , The Old Works, Thames Water S.T.W., Belevedere Road, Abbey Wood, SE2 9AQ

GREENWICH INDUSTRIAL HISTORY SOCIETY

The Society's officers are currently as follows:

Emeritus President - Jack Vaughan

Chair - Sue Bullevant

Vice-Chair and Committee - Ray Fordham - Andrew Bullevant, Alan Parfrey, David Riddle

Secretary - Mary Mills

Treasurer - Steve Daly

Auditor - Juliet Cairns

Members are reminded that subscription renewals fell due in October 2005.
Subscriptions remain at £10 and should be sent to:

Steve Daly, 5 Pankhurst House, Garrison Close, Shooters Hill, SE18 4JE

This newsletter was produced for Greenwich Industrial History Society,
Chair, Sue Bullevant, 11 Riverview Heights, Shooters Hill, SE18.
Views expressed in it are those of the authors and not of the Society.

ANY NEWSLETTER IS ONLY AS GOOD AS ITS CONTENTS.
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MEETING PLACE

Meetings as advertised at the head of this newsletter will be held at;
The Old Bakehouse, (at back of the) Age Exchange Reminiscence Centre, 11 Blackheath Village, London, SE23 9LA

Do not go to the Reminiscence Centre itself - The Old Bakehouse is at the back, in Bennett Park.
Walk into Bennett Park and turn left into a yard. The Old Bakehouse is the building on your right. The entrance is straight ahead.
Members and visitors are strongly advised not to park at the Old Bakehouse.

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